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		By: the talking dog		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[Kathy--
Bingo.  As you suggested to me in e-mail, there are and were legitimate GEO-POLITICAL reasons to have invaded Iraq (need to withdraw US forces from Saudi kingdom, sanctions long-term untenable,
Saddam likely to renew WMD programs IF sanctions ever lifted, no-fly zone maintenance not &quot;free&quot;, etc.)
Not ONE of these reasons was enunciated as a justification for this Iraq adventure.  NOT ONE.  At least by Bush or Cheney.  The American people might very well have supported the Iraq war within 6 months or so of 9-11 (I went so far as to pledge support for Bush&#039;s reelection HAD HE DONE SO), as part of a defensive-offensive strategy, mobilizing the American iron when it was hot, recognizing (honestly) that we really DO have probably decades of trouble ahead of us with this.  AND-- national sacrifice.  SUR-TAXES for the rich to pay for this-- NOT INSANE, IMMORAL TAX CUTS FOR THEM (and yes, in war time, asking our grandchildren but not our millionaires to pay for our security is IMMORAL).  JOINT SACRIFICE is part of the equation-- not asking poor people&#039;s children to fight and die alone, as if we were watching from a luxury box and munching nachos and cheering.
I&#039;ve said many times that Iraq may yet (somehow) work out, and make sense in hindsight.  And I have suggested to you that Bush&#039;s half-assed strategy may, at least, ACCIDENTALLY solve or emliorate the world terror problem.
In contrast, we have NO IDEA what Senator Kerry would actually do, but we have a good idea that his ass-covering personality would lead him into a pure reactive mode (not that this is necessarily bad, btw), but this may not be enough.
Kerry has approached this all wrong.  If he accepts Clinton&#039;s advice and ignores this issue, he will lose (which, btw, is what Clinton wants so Hillary can &quot;save us all&quot; in 2008, and
my liberal friends, please spare me.)
Kerry MUST enunciate some kind of vision as to how he will deal with this potential world-ending (picture OBL with 20 IBMs) situation.  MUST.  Cheaper health care won&#039;t help us recover from nuclear holocaust.
I&#039;ll make it easy for him: KERRY CAN VOW TO CONTINUE THE PRESIDENT&#039;S WORK ON THIS.  Its actually a smaller bone to Bush than you would think.  A ju-jit-su move.  Acknowledge that, like the Cold War, both parties were as hawkish as they needed to be to get it done-- and this is NOT A PARTISAN ISSUE (like Bush wants it to be) BUT AN AMERICAN SECURITY ISSUE.  Then, with the AMerican people satisfied that either way, their security is covered (or at least, they can be sure the Dem isn&#039;t planning on CAPTIULATING), and make their vote on other things.  Like health care, the deficit and the environment.
But that&#039;s just me.
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Bingo.  As you suggested to me in e-mail, there are and were legitimate GEO-POLITICAL reasons to have invaded Iraq (need to withdraw US forces from Saudi kingdom, sanctions long-term untenable,<br />
Saddam likely to renew WMD programs IF sanctions ever lifted, no-fly zone maintenance not &#8220;free&#8221;, etc.)<br />
Not ONE of these reasons was enunciated as a justification for this Iraq adventure.  NOT ONE.  At least by Bush or Cheney.  The American people might very well have supported the Iraq war within 6 months or so of 9-11 (I went so far as to pledge support for Bush&#8217;s reelection HAD HE DONE SO), as part of a defensive-offensive strategy, mobilizing the American iron when it was hot, recognizing (honestly) that we really DO have probably decades of trouble ahead of us with this.  AND&#8211; national sacrifice.  SUR-TAXES for the rich to pay for this&#8211; NOT INSANE, IMMORAL TAX CUTS FOR THEM (and yes, in war time, asking our grandchildren but not our millionaires to pay for our security is IMMORAL).  JOINT SACRIFICE is part of the equation&#8211; not asking poor people&#8217;s children to fight and die alone, as if we were watching from a luxury box and munching nachos and cheering.<br />
I&#8217;ve said many times that Iraq may yet (somehow) work out, and make sense in hindsight.  And I have suggested to you that Bush&#8217;s half-assed strategy may, at least, ACCIDENTALLY solve or emliorate the world terror problem.<br />
In contrast, we have NO IDEA what Senator Kerry would actually do, but we have a good idea that his ass-covering personality would lead him into a pure reactive mode (not that this is necessarily bad, btw), but this may not be enough.<br />
Kerry has approached this all wrong.  If he accepts Clinton&#8217;s advice and ignores this issue, he will lose (which, btw, is what Clinton wants so Hillary can &#8220;save us all&#8221; in 2008, and<br />
my liberal friends, please spare me.)<br />
Kerry MUST enunciate some kind of vision as to how he will deal with this potential world-ending (picture OBL with 20 IBMs) situation.  MUST.  Cheaper health care won&#8217;t help us recover from nuclear holocaust.<br />
I&#8217;ll make it easy for him: KERRY CAN VOW TO CONTINUE THE PRESIDENT&#8217;S WORK ON THIS.  Its actually a smaller bone to Bush than you would think.  A ju-jit-su move.  Acknowledge that, like the Cold War, both parties were as hawkish as they needed to be to get it done&#8211; and this is NOT A PARTISAN ISSUE (like Bush wants it to be) BUT AN AMERICAN SECURITY ISSUE.  Then, with the AMerican people satisfied that either way, their security is covered (or at least, they can be sure the Dem isn&#8217;t planning on CAPTIULATING), and make their vote on other things.  Like health care, the deficit and the environment.<br />
But that&#8217;s just me.</p>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Sep 2004 09:02:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m afraid you are right that (what you consider) a bad answer will be chosen over no answer at all.
I think Bush has made some mistakes but I don&#039;t think going into Iraq was the wrong thing to do. I agree with you completely on free trade and there are quite a few other issues that bother me about Bush (can Ashcroft be called an issue?).
But I keep getting the feeling that Kerry would do nothing at all.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m afraid you are right that (what you consider) a bad answer will be chosen over no answer at all.<br />
I think Bush has made some mistakes but I don&#8217;t think going into Iraq was the wrong thing to do. I agree with you completely on free trade and there are quite a few other issues that bother me about Bush (can Ashcroft be called an issue?).<br />
But I keep getting the feeling that Kerry would do nothing at all.</p>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Sep 2004 23:29:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Fingers too tired in hitting the keyboard from lack of exercise?
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		By: The Moderate Voice		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Sep 2004 19:27:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;strong&gt;Clash of Civilizations&lt;/strong&gt;

Seth Farber, aka The Talking Dog, has some thoughts here on the clash of civilizations and how it relates to the Bush-Kerry matchup. You need to read the whole thing but here&#039;s a key quote: HOWEVER... what matters to most
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<p>Seth Farber, aka The Talking Dog, has some thoughts here on the clash of civilizations and how it relates to the Bush-Kerry matchup. You need to read the whole thing but here&#8217;s a key quote: HOWEVER&#8230; what matters to most</p>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Sep 2004 17:26:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Next time shoot me an e-mail instead of letting me discover you are down! Not that I&#039;m sure I could have done anything Sunday anyway... electric was still flickering and I was blogging from laptop (which doesn&#039;t have my database fixit programs). Though I could have told you your host needed to fix your quota!
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Next time shoot me an e-mail instead of letting me discover you are down! Not that I&#8217;m sure I could have done anything Sunday anyway&#8230; electric was still flickering and I was blogging from laptop (which doesn&#8217;t have my database fixit programs). Though I could have told you your host needed to fix your quota!</p>
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