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Thu, 11 Nov 2004 18:30:40 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=7.1.4 By: Jihad Jay: Fluff Girl of the Right https://thetalkingdog.com/2004/11/08/damned_judges/#comment-566 Thu, 11 Nov 2004 18:30:40 +0000 http://thetalkingdog.com/2004/11/08/damned_judges/#comment-566 I agree on the bit about Kerry. Dean would’ve been better had he not gone insane. Lieberman would have been ideal but he’s not a Clintonite.
The American people are not dying for a change. Otherwise Nader would have gotten more votes and the media would not have had to work so hard trying to convince they need to die for a change.
The election was never a slam dunk for the Dems. It may have been close here and there – but never a slam dunk.
This election proved that the next Dem candidate better be more on reality and less on bullshit. That candidate better articulate the big picture that is congruent with the interests of this country in spite of the blame/hate-America crowd, some of whose rhetoric can be found sprinkled on this blog.
As for Jihad Jay, I adopted this name when openfire.us was constructed. Up until then my war was against socialism, political-correctness and the idiots who love them.
Now, it is clear to me in the post-9/11 world that the only jihad worth a shit is the American Jihad. That jihad door swings both ways – and it better swing both ways otherwise someday you and me will be swinging.
So the Jihad part of my handle is a rightful twist on what must be waged against our enemies.

]]> By: They Call Me Mr. Crabcake https://thetalkingdog.com/2004/11/08/damned_judges/#comment-565 Wed, 10 Nov 2004 14:31:03 +0000 http://thetalkingdog.com/2004/11/08/damned_judges/#comment-565 Kerry lost because he was a horrible candidate without conviction, without resolution, and with too many special interests. The American people were dying (literally) for a change, but he offered nothing, and repeatedly proved that he could not be trusted. This election was a slam dunk (thanks, Mr. Tenet) for the Democrats, but they offered their B team at the primaries, and ended up with Kerry. Bush II was a far bigger walkover than Bush I, but the Dems offered no viable alternative.
I don’t know if the Democrats have an A team, but they had better be ready next time.
As for Jihad Jay:
JIHAD? That sounds like a Terrorist Name. Perhaps you should report to Guantanamo Bay Resort Community for the duration of the war. Trial? You don’t need no stinkin’ trial.

]]> By: Jihad Jay: Fluff Girl of the Right https://thetalkingdog.com/2004/11/08/damned_judges/#comment-564 Wed, 10 Nov 2004 14:28:52 +0000 http://thetalkingdog.com/2004/11/08/damned_judges/#comment-564 Derek,
I don’t know from what planet you are coming from nor how you are interpreting what I’m saying. I suppose it’s just this kind of inability for the Left and Right to speak the same language that will further the Great Political Divide.
The American people don’t give a dead dog’s dick (no offense, talking dog) about Guantanamo Bay or Abu Graib. There are more pressing matters at hand. If you can’t see them then you’ll see the reason why Republicans are in greater control.
The Constitution is not going to be burned and the very nature of war precludes the perfect utopian lifestyle you liberals would like to enjoy.
I am not against torturing. It works some of the time. Applying our Western values to a conflict against an enemy who despises them is pussified, ignorant and dangerous.
And what the hell is this:
Voting for the mean guy out of spite because being called mean hurt your feelings is downright mean.
I voted for the man with conviction to kill scumbag terrorists – not because my feelings are hurt. What kind of liberal nonsense is that interpretation?
Being mean is inherent in the original post for this thread.
I see some dodging of points by you folks, too.
Talking Dog,
Gays and lesbians? What…where…how the hell are you people wired. I’m confused but willing to try and understand.
Taking Dog..WTF?
Describe for me precisely what was bullshit about the Swift Boat veterans stand on things.
The liberal media did all they could to leverage Abu Ghraib against Bush. It failed because the American people see the big picture.
That liberals do not is the reason Bush got four more years.

]]> By: Anonymous https://thetalkingdog.com/2004/11/08/damned_judges/#comment-563 Wed, 10 Nov 2004 14:03:35 +0000 http://thetalkingdog.com/2004/11/08/damned_judges/#comment-563 I think you make an excellent point about the inherent meanness of (SOME, A LOT) Americans. They like the blood of people they think are weaker than them and they worship arbitrary power. Why?

]]> By: the talking dog https://thetalkingdog.com/2004/11/08/damned_judges/#comment-562 Wed, 10 Nov 2004 10:12:36 +0000 http://thetalkingdog.com/2004/11/08/damned_judges/#comment-562 I don’t know, Derek. Leaders lead.
Kerry gets to tell us what he thinks is important. If he tells us that he thinks that a President of the United States authorizing and/or ordering TORTURE (something not, as far as we know, ordered by such war presidents as Lincoln, Roosevelt, Truman, Johnson/Nixon, Bush I, et al.) IS IMPORTANT, and that IT IS WRONG, not merely “outrageous”, an overused word, but WRONG, an underused word in this context, then people will, or will not go along. Its more a matter of he had them– Bush people disgusted enough to stay home from the polls– and in less than 90 days… poof. That disgust shifted entirely against gays and lesbians. That says A LOT about Kerry’s “leadership” skills (and lots of other things, I’m afraid).
All I know is that Bush was finished as of late July. The Swift Boat bullshit was a lifeline to Bush. For whatever reason, caught up in defending his own ego, Abu Ghraib was never heard from again (certainly from either Senator John).
Jay, I say to you again… WTF?

]]> By: derek https://thetalkingdog.com/2004/11/08/damned_judges/#comment-561 Wed, 10 Nov 2004 09:15:32 +0000 http://thetalkingdog.com/2004/11/08/damned_judges/#comment-561 Oh, and Jihad Jay? Cut the “look what you made me do!” malarkey. Voting for the mean guy out of spite because being called mean hurt your feelings is downright mean.

]]> By: derek https://thetalkingdog.com/2004/11/08/damned_judges/#comment-560 Wed, 10 Nov 2004 09:13:06 +0000 http://thetalkingdog.com/2004/11/08/damned_judges/#comment-560 But that would be negative campaigning.
No, I’m not being snarky, I’m serious. Frankly, it’s not the responsibility of the opposing candidate to keep on and on reminding the voters that they must vote the torturer out. If you are against torture you’ll kind of remember that all by yourself without prompting.
I don’t think I buy the idea that the people of America really cared that the President did this horrible thing in their name… but then forgot and voted for him. “forgot” and “really cared” just don’t go together.

]]> By: Jihad Jay https://thetalkingdog.com/2004/11/08/damned_judges/#comment-559 Wed, 10 Nov 2004 03:35:27 +0000 http://thetalkingdog.com/2004/11/08/damned_judges/#comment-559 I want to comment on what you said here:
Here’s the thing: if you put the Bill of Rights to a vote right now before the American people, it might well lose. As I alluded to recently, Americans are downright mean: they are much more interested in inflicting punishment on someone else than they would be on protecting even their own rights. It is, of course, why we HAVE a constitution and courts to enforce them that transcend any individual democratic decision… it’s our constitution and tradition of protected freedoms that make this country great, not the fact that in some respects our republic resembles a democracy.
Americans are downright mean? Are you high? If I go to Madison, Berkeley or any other liberal bastion I would agree with you but to make this blanket statement for all Americans is not only ignorant, it represents well the blame-America/hate-America crowd who backed Kerry and was instrumental in his loss.
The majority of people are tired of that line of shit. Why do you think you liberals got skunked last week?
You never learn. It’s just bitch and whine and hate…that, to me, is mean.
And I see it mostly on the Left.
As for the scumbags being held down in Cuba…I am amused that liberals give such a shit about a few Taliban douchebags being held indefinitely while never finding equal cause to mention the many people who died on 9/11.
There is not a great conspiracy to set a precedent that can see you arrested for no reason and detained indefinitely on some Carribean island.
Finally, as far as I’m concerned, the worthless lumps of flesh (is that mean…maybe I need sensitivity training…at least I don’t direct such vitriol at my own country) at the “American gulag” are to remain there until this war is over…historically this has proven to be the prudent thing to do. If the war never ends then tough shit.
And read your history book to learn what a gulag really is because compared to that the detention facility at Guantanamo Bay is a resort community.

]]> By: Sarah https://thetalkingdog.com/2004/11/08/damned_judges/#comment-558 Tue, 09 Nov 2004 18:38:57 +0000 http://thetalkingdog.com/2004/11/08/damned_judges/#comment-558 You have a point. I think it might have made the difference between win / lose for Kerry if he had riffed on Abu Ghraib, because it was wrong. And stupid. You don’t get good intel from torture; you just get what you expect to hear, anything to stop whatever is being done to you. Amateurs!

]]> By: They Call Me Mr. Crabcake https://thetalkingdog.com/2004/11/08/damned_judges/#comment-557 Tue, 09 Nov 2004 17:50:54 +0000 http://thetalkingdog.com/2004/11/08/damned_judges/#comment-557 That’s the punch line to the world’s greatest joke, which finishes…..
OK…But first, Abu Dooby.

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