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anything interesting? Fri, 31 Dec 2004 13:52:33 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=7.1.4 By: GoneGaryT https://thetalkingdog.com/2004/12/30/crisis_danger_p/#comment-1005 Fri, 31 Dec 2004 13:52:33 +0000 http://thetalkingdog.com/2004/12/30/crisis_danger_p/#comment-1005 Well said TD, but your last paragraph probably describes the stance of the US Communists of the 1930-1950 era. You realise there will likely be another McCarthy-type witch hunt one day, given the current direction of US politics (although what exactly is un-American about exercising one’s right to believe in whatever?). I agree with you nonetheless.

]]> By: the talking dog https://thetalkingdog.com/2004/12/30/crisis_danger_p/#comment-1004 Fri, 31 Dec 2004 12:06:27 +0000 http://thetalkingdog.com/2004/12/30/crisis_danger_p/#comment-1004 To tell you the truth, after well over 3 years of basic Bush bashing on this blog, I really don’t want to talk about him very much beyond “setting up the story”.
My usual answer re: President George Walker Bush is something like “disappointed but not surprised”.
To quote Forest Gump (irony intended), “Stuff happens”. There are lots of things Bush could do that I’d be delighted to see him do. But I could say the same of Harry Reid, John Kerry, Nancy Pelosi, Hillary Clinton and other “Democratic leaders”.
They are free to seize the moment, ESPECIALLY in moments like this when the President goes (irony intended) AWOL in this istance. To be fair– as I suspected he would– Bush is responding to the crisis, and frankly, not inappropriately. We’d all wish he took more decisive action, and with potentially thousands of Americans and hundreds of thousands of others dead or injured or displaced, maybe– MAYBE– symbolically cutting off his vacation would have been nice (though I do wonder what difference it would make).
Look: this is a small man, who, IMHO,isn’t up to the job for a variety of reasons involving his emotional and intellectual shortcomings. BUT– that was MY humble opinion. The electorate has spoken, and disagrees. Or maybe they don’t even disagree– but “our side” was too busy showing contempt for the common man with a brilliant Ivy League debater who windsurfed and snowboarded but HAD TO PRETEND he was “a hunter”, and could never be wrong, even when caught dead to rights.
Indeed, the common man might wonder why our party, which overwhelmingly opposed the IRaq war, might nominate someone who voted FOR it (and then insisted he didn’t!!! because everything was complicated– “I have a plan.”
As this humdinger of a year winds into its last few hours, let’s all look ourselves in the mirror, shall we, and try to figure out what we, or “our side”, can do to make this world a nicer and better place, WE can do things because they are right, and let the ultimate political chips fall where they may, and whether “the other side” does or not, at least WE can go about our lives with a clear conscience, knowing at least WE valued principle and decency over short term political benefit or expediency. That’ll be the day, eh?
Happy new year, everybody.

]]> By: GoneGaryT https://thetalkingdog.com/2004/12/30/crisis_danger_p/#comment-1003 Fri, 31 Dec 2004 11:37:19 +0000 http://thetalkingdog.com/2004/12/30/crisis_danger_p/#comment-1003 Don’t you think that there is an inability to respond by the Bush administration? I keep thinking of the Bush aide who talked of them “making history” which we “reality-based people” would waste time analysing. Well, 9.0 on the Richter scale is reality biting hard; when reality plays its hand, it has all the aces. When you’re supposed to be the ones “making history”, it kinda takes the wind out of your sails. Perhaps that explains the response we’ve seen?

]]> By: Miss Authoritiva https://thetalkingdog.com/2004/12/30/crisis_danger_p/#comment-1002 Thu, 30 Dec 2004 19:41:28 +0000 http://thetalkingdog.com/2004/12/30/crisis_danger_p/#comment-1002 Face it, Bush is just not a gracious person, and he gets mulish when he doesn’t feel like “performing.” At this point, I wouldn’t expect anything different. I like it that people are looking at the inaugural expenditures (both public and private) and the leftover campaign funds and realizing what these huge sums of money could purchase if they were not destined to be squandered on the outrageously expensive silliness of our political process. Realistically, however, these funds are not going to be “diverted” for disaster relief. Heads would explode!

]]> By: Lawrence https://thetalkingdog.com/2004/12/30/crisis_danger_p/#comment-1001 Thu, 30 Dec 2004 17:03:19 +0000 http://thetalkingdog.com/2004/12/30/crisis_danger_p/#comment-1001 As usual, TD, I find you much more agreeable in comments than I do on the front page. Well said.

]]> By: Lawrence https://thetalkingdog.com/2004/12/30/crisis_danger_p/#comment-1000 Thu, 30 Dec 2004 16:59:56 +0000 http://thetalkingdog.com/2004/12/30/crisis_danger_p/#comment-1000 Mamayo, the calculation to which you refer (foreign aid as a percentage of GDP) does not include private charitable contributions by Americans (about $35 billion annually) or the many billions more in military expenditures incurred subsidizing the defense of others (Japan, South Korea, Tawain, Europe, etc. as well as that spent through our Navy protecting sea lanes for international trade). Those are real costs and their exclusion renders your criticism meaningless.
I guess Michael’s real problem is that Bush didn’t look like he ‘felt their pain’ enough. Oh well.

]]> By: the talking dog https://thetalkingdog.com/2004/12/30/crisis_danger_p/#comment-999 Thu, 30 Dec 2004 16:44:56 +0000 http://thetalkingdog.com/2004/12/30/crisis_danger_p/#comment-999 I’m looking at this as a series of possible opportunities (and this is a developing story).
I have little doubt that at the end of the day, the United States will pony up more aid than anybody else, as we usually do– but we may or may not get credit for it. Since “moral authority” is an absolutely critical element of the “war on terror”, it is essential that the image of how we give aid is every bit as important as the aid itself– it may be crass, but that’s the facts of life now. Mamayo’s point is very well taken; it IS our government’s job not only to do good, but to be SEEN as doing good, especially as these are not only stricken areas, but politically sensitive ones as well. I suspect that the President will shortly do more on that front as well, though if he doesn’t, grousing won’t make it so.
I wouldn’t worry too much about the first impressions here in any event– this story is going to go on for weeks and months, and the humanitarian disaster of burying hundreds of thousands of people and rebuilding the lives of countless millions will obviously take years.
The opposition party and its so-called leaders DO have a real opportunity to step up now, especially with Congress out of session and the program we have set up for international humanitarian aid officially out of money, to (1) call for an immediate special session of Congress to FUND said program, and provide additional funding given the magnitude of this crisis (which, btw, may well have killed nearly as many or maybe even more Americans than died on 9-11, if many of the missing don’t turn up) (2) call on ALL Americans– as private citizens– to fund humanitarian relief efforts, (3) lead by example– maybe have millionaires– like Mesrs. Kerry and Edwards, for example– make extra large donations, and maybe volunteer for some relief work.
At this point- the Democrats have a freebie here. The party out of power can’t (credibly) be accused of playing politics over this– if the call is for private action and non-controversial public disaster relief legislation, rather than simply grousing about “the other side”.
Or we can all treat this the way we treat everything (and as I fear, from their collective silence, Democratic “leaders” will treat this)–as a political football at best– and multiple opportunities will be lost.
I’d just like to see some good come out of this horrible tragedy– whether political points are scored by it or not.

]]> By: Ron https://thetalkingdog.com/2004/12/30/crisis_danger_p/#comment-998 Thu, 30 Dec 2004 16:30:11 +0000 http://thetalkingdog.com/2004/12/30/crisis_danger_p/#comment-998 And the first relief planes in were Australian and,er, French.

]]> By: Michael Farris https://thetalkingdog.com/2004/12/30/crisis_danger_p/#comment-997 Thu, 30 Dec 2004 16:27:12 +0000 http://thetalkingdog.com/2004/12/30/crisis_danger_p/#comment-997 And why call a press conference to announce an increase in aid if you look like you really couldn’t give a shit, but you’re just mad about being called cheap?
I suspect before long, many people will regret having voted for that small spirited mean little man.

]]> By: mamayo https://thetalkingdog.com/2004/12/30/crisis_danger_p/#comment-996 Thu, 30 Dec 2004 16:20:28 +0000 http://thetalkingdog.com/2004/12/30/crisis_danger_p/#comment-996 Actually, Lawrence, if you read my comment carefully you would note I was saying that because of Bush’s (and the Dems)lousy public face on this, we were THOUGHT to be contributing only $15 million. The point being, we obviously are contributing vastly more than $15 million, so why let this small initial number from AID be the only public announcement about our contributions, and miss the chance to reap as much goodwill as possible?
That said, our foreign aid contribution, as a percentage of GDP, is pitiful. That we contribute more in absolute numbers than other countries is saying nothing, since we are larger and have much more to give.

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