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Counterpoint. Gunpoint. https://thetalkingdog.com/2005/01/17/point_counterpo/ Sure, the dog can talk... but does he say anything interesting? Thu, 20 Jan 2005 21:40:07 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=7.1.4 By: irisclara https://thetalkingdog.com/2005/01/17/point_counterpo/#comment-1076 Thu, 20 Jan 2005 21:40:07 +0000 http://thetalkingdog.com/2005/01/17/point_counterpo/#comment-1076 O yes Phonecian. When The Who played Won’t Get Fooled Again at the Paul McCartney’s Concert for 9/11 I watched all those cops and firefighters singing along and grinned so hard my face hurt.

]]> By: irisclara https://thetalkingdog.com/2005/01/17/point_counterpo/#comment-1075 Thu, 20 Jan 2005 21:32:18 +0000 http://thetalkingdog.com/2005/01/17/point_counterpo/#comment-1075 I agree with the dog on the “join up or starve to death” draft as opposed to “patriotic service”. Why should Bush feel shy about being caught in a lie? He never has before. Look at the whole WMD thing. He believes (with good reason) that no one will call him on any lie he tells. He’ll have to use the draft board so everyone will know the truth. If they’re calling up 60 year old men now, who (but the rich) won’t fear becoming an involuntary part of the Global War On Terror.

]]> By: Phoenician in a time of Romans https://thetalkingdog.com/2005/01/17/point_counterpo/#comment-1074 Thu, 20 Jan 2005 00:13:35 +0000 http://thetalkingdog.com/2005/01/17/point_counterpo/#comment-1074 I wonder how difficult it would be to get this song back on the charts in the next year or so?…

]]> By: the talking dog https://thetalkingdog.com/2005/01/17/point_counterpo/#comment-1073 Wed, 19 Jan 2005 17:52:15 +0000 http://thetalkingdog.com/2005/01/17/point_counterpo/#comment-1073 Update:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/4184175.stm
It seems that Iran is denying that operations have taken place upon its sovereign soil as well, calling such allegations “ridiculous”.
So– the score: one heretofore trustworthy Pulitzer Prize winning journalist who say its so vs. two peculiarly untrustworthy governments who say its not.
Once again: draw your own conclusions.

]]> By: the talking dog https://thetalkingdog.com/2005/01/17/point_counterpo/#comment-1072 Wed, 19 Jan 2005 09:43:31 +0000 http://thetalkingdog.com/2005/01/17/point_counterpo/#comment-1072 They could, say, raise the pay of the military to attract more people to join; or we could have a really deep recession that serves that same purpose… join up, or starve to death… almost poetic that both the American and Iraqi services in Iraq have the same induction incentives…
My guess, though, is John is right: some manufactured crisis– probably a 9-11-LITE here at home, and the schmucks we call our countrymen will “rally ’round the president” again, even as THIS TIME he calls for good old FORCED national service…

]]> By: Michael Farris https://thetalkingdog.com/2005/01/17/point_counterpo/#comment-1071 Wed, 19 Jan 2005 01:10:09 +0000 http://thetalkingdog.com/2005/01/17/point_counterpo/#comment-1071 I didn’t mention the D word, but yeah, it’s hard to see how they can accomplish any of their goals without one (unless their goal is just to embroil the whole middle east in conflict while wrecking the US Armed forces).
My working assumption is that they won’t _Call_ it a draft, it’ll be called something else (“Patriot service” anyone?) and there will be a wrinkle or two (such as exemptions for the wealthy) that will allow the W-ites to bray that W said there wouldn’t be a “draft” he never said there wouldn’t be “patriot service” (and advise the “left” that anyone who protests it, will be getting exactly what they deserve …)

]]> By: John Emerson https://thetalkingdog.com/2005/01/17/point_counterpo/#comment-1070 Tue, 18 Jan 2005 19:45:07 +0000 http://thetalkingdog.com/2005/01/17/point_counterpo/#comment-1070 Imposing a draft and accusing anti-war people of treason has to be part of the mix. Except for the Dog and me, Democrats seem to be oblivious.
I expect the draft to be rushed through in a hysterical crisis atmosphere, even though everyone knows it will take 6 months or a year for the draft to change anything. Once the draft is in place, the crisis will prove manageable.

]]> By: Jeremiad Screamer https://thetalkingdog.com/2005/01/17/point_counterpo/#comment-1069 Tue, 18 Jan 2005 14:35:25 +0000 http://thetalkingdog.com/2005/01/17/point_counterpo/#comment-1069 Where’s the part about the Iranian people greeting our forces with flower petals?

]]> By: mamayo https://thetalkingdog.com/2005/01/17/point_counterpo/#comment-1068 Tue, 18 Jan 2005 13:42:29 +0000 http://thetalkingdog.com/2005/01/17/point_counterpo/#comment-1068 Well, I think DOD’s and Bartlett’s responses were classic examples of non-denial denials. Where’s the part about “this is total fiction–we categorically deny that anything of the sort is going on in Iran or in the Pentagon”???? No such luck. It’s happening.
Are they stupid enough to think (even after Iraq) that they can “stage manage a revolution from the wings”?–Oh, yes. All they have to do is make a couple of strategic air strikes, take out a few mullahs, and the Iranian people’s desire for reform will cause them to rise up and form a representative democracy with full civil rights. They honestly believe this. (They are delusional, but sincere.)
I am particularly enjoying the part about Douglas Feith convening his own personal think tanks of former Iran-Contra participants, who are being referred to by that particular corridor of the Pentagon as “Iran experts.” Anything goes in the reality-free universe. It’s the best of all possible worlds.

]]> By: Miss Authoritiva https://thetalkingdog.com/2005/01/17/point_counterpo/#comment-1067 Tue, 18 Jan 2005 07:17:40 +0000 http://thetalkingdog.com/2005/01/17/point_counterpo/#comment-1067 What a bitchy DOD press release! Are they usually written in such a tone? Doesn’t seem very crisply professional. And Mr. Farris, you’re right: with what army?! Hard to imagine a war with Iran that’s going to be even “lighter, faster, and cheaper” than the war with Iraq.

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