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interesting? Sat, 05 Mar 2005 00:12:50 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=7.1.4 By: Social Scientist https://thetalkingdog.com/2005/03/02/times_theyre_a_1/#comment-1430 Sat, 05 Mar 2005 00:12:50 +0000 http://thetalkingdog.com/2005/03/02/times_theyre_a_1/#comment-1430 “I feel good” sayeth President Bush, slayer of tens of thousands of innocents.

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By: Victims of 9-11 https://thetalkingdog.com/2005/03/02/times_theyre_a_1/#comment-1429 Fri, 04 Mar 2005 21:14:00 +0000 http://thetalkingdog.com/2005/03/02/times_theyre_a_1/#comment-1429 Thank you President Bush for your strong response to terror.
Vengeance is Mine sayeth the Lord.

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By: sean archer https://thetalkingdog.com/2005/03/02/times_theyre_a_1/#comment-1428 Fri, 04 Mar 2005 21:11:50 +0000 http://thetalkingdog.com/2005/03/02/times_theyre_a_1/#comment-1428 [[anything except a war crimes trial]]
What the f–k is wrong with you. He leads us against Bin Laden, and then invades a dictator who commits genocide against the Kurds and he should be on trial!!!. You go so extreme, that you lose credibility. You can be against W, but these extreme comments make you look like an crazy person.
IF YOU WANT PEACE, PREPARE FOR WAR.

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By: Isaac B2 https://thetalkingdog.com/2005/03/02/times_theyre_a_1/#comment-1427 Fri, 04 Mar 2005 01:00:21 +0000 http://thetalkingdog.com/2005/03/02/times_theyre_a_1/#comment-1427 Glad to have stumbled upon your site… very thought-provoking. And it helps that I agree with you.

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By: mamayo https://thetalkingdog.com/2005/03/02/times_theyre_a_1/#comment-1426 Thu, 03 Mar 2005 17:19:45 +0000 http://thetalkingdog.com/2005/03/02/times_theyre_a_1/#comment-1426 What I see is a Bush admin that was less involved in Israel/Palestine or in Lebanon or in North Africa than any in recent history, except to jump in and claim credit when local events (death of Arafat; murder of Lebanese ex-Pres.; Libya’s voluntary disarmament) gave opportunity. Of course Bush said the right things when those events occurred (as I believe any President of whatever political philosophy would have done), but he didn’t have much to do with creating the opportunity. I think it is precisely like Saint Ronald claiming credit for the breakup of the Soviet Union–these changes are the culmination of decades of effort. Was invading Iraq the precipitating factor?–I doubt it. Is there likely to be some very big unpleasantness to come? Yes, and not just in Iraq.
What I find interesting is Bush’s eagerness to claim credit–will he also claim credit for the creation of severely repressive theocracies in Iraq, Egypt and Saudi Arabia (which also will not be immune from the “democratization” efforts of its own people); for their likely foreign policy objectives toward Israel; and their future use of oil policy against the U.S.? There are replacement customers for the oil now–our owners in China and our chief competitors in India–so there is no real need for a democratically elected theocracy in Saudi Arabia to trade at all with the demon U.S.

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By: the talking dog https://thetalkingdog.com/2005/03/02/times_theyre_a_1/#comment-1425 Thu, 03 Mar 2005 09:45:05 +0000 http://thetalkingdog.com/2005/03/02/times_theyre_a_1/#comment-1425 Taking credit for good stuff (and blaming others for bad stuff) is, after all, what politicans do. (Churchmen do it too: God only does the good stuff; despite His purported omnipotence, Satan or man’s free will or whatever gets blamed for the bad stuff.)
Hey, Bill Clinton, for example, took an awful lot of credit for an awful lot of good stuff that more or less just devolved upon him by sheer luck. I look at Bill Clinton and note that the minimum wage was $4.75 when he took office in 1993, and its $5.15 now, in 2005… despite alleged “8 years of peace and prosperity”, massive productivity gains and 12 years worth of rising living expenses in our economy.
My point is that the percentages are that if these Arab countries start implementing anything resembling “democracy”, like here, the hardest line religious extremists are likely to start taking power, because they have the base that will hold together.
Maybe the Bushmen like the idea of “God-fearing” governments replacing corrupt secular dictators. That’s pretty much what we’ve set in motion in Iraq, and what may well happen in Lebanon and Egypt.
Again– just stepping back and thinking about 9-11, however, one wonders whether installing hardline Islamist theocracies in the Middle East is really advancing American interests.

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By: glennk https://thetalkingdog.com/2005/03/02/times_theyre_a_1/#comment-1424 Thu, 03 Mar 2005 08:46:34 +0000 http://thetalkingdog.com/2005/03/02/times_theyre_a_1/#comment-1424 Hitler built the autobahns and Mussolini got the trains to run on time. Did that make them good guys? “W” will take credit for anything good that happens and pass the blame off on others for all the bad. Typical Corp. manager in this era.

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By: union https://thetalkingdog.com/2005/03/02/times_theyre_a_1/#comment-1423 Thu, 03 Mar 2005 03:20:33 +0000 http://thetalkingdog.com/2005/03/02/times_theyre_a_1/#comment-1423 When Libya claimed it was going to dismantle its nuclear weapons program, I knew Bush was going to get credit for that too. The fact of the matter is that Libya began its policy of joining the global community (again) before Bush’s tenure (where credit is due to Gadhafi’s son). The same holds true for the rest of the region in that history already is taking its course. Maybe the Bush foreign policy is trying to change this course or take advantage of it.

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