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Fri, 21 Oct 2005 16:14:40 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=7.1.4 By: euro-ron https://thetalkingdog.com/2005/10/19/go_for_the_gust/#comment-1783 Fri, 21 Oct 2005 16:14:40 +0000 http://thetalkingdog.com/2005/10/19/go_for_the_gust/#comment-1783 Lets pray he doesn’t ‘oblige us’.Can you imagine the conspiracy theories ! The pity indeed is that he didn’t ‘resist arrest’ in that hidey hole.

]]> By: Lawrence https://thetalkingdog.com/2005/10/19/go_for_the_gust/#comment-1782 Fri, 21 Oct 2005 12:22:32 +0000 http://thetalkingdog.com/2005/10/19/go_for_the_gust/#comment-1782 You always seem so much more reasonable in the comments, TD. Aside from perhaps a sizeable portion of Arab Sunnis, Iraqis do want Saddam put to death for his crimes. There’s no shortage of volunteers to be his executioner. If not for our protecting him in an undisclosed location, he would undoubted be dead already. The blowback from his death sentence, which will probably be sure and swift after his conviction, will mostly be from left-wing circles in the West. In other words, not something I worry too much about.
I would also add that there were many reasons given for liberating Iraq (see the 2002 Iraq War Resolution and 2003 SOTU address). Removing Saddam was a neccessary step in helping the ME move out of the dark ages. The UN just released a study showing that, despite popular belief, there are far fewer wars today than there were 30 years ago, and the ones that do occur are far less bloody. The primary reason: there are more democracies now than then.
Saddam’s death will signal that we’re not moving back; that there’s no hope of his loyalists returning him to power. I, for one, look forward to the day.

]]> By: the talking dog https://thetalkingdog.com/2005/10/19/go_for_the_gust/#comment-1781 Thu, 20 Oct 2005 22:40:58 +0000 http://thetalkingdog.com/2005/10/19/go_for_the_gust/#comment-1781 Actually, I couldn’t care less if they took Saddam out and shot him; in fact, I think it’s unfortunate he was captured alive, but that’s the way it is.
It was Dick Cheney who once asked how many more American lives Saddam’s sorry ass was worth, and Cheney answered his own question “not too damn many.”
And in that regard… I agree with Dick Cheney!
The “satisfaction” of having the Iraqi proto-state which we control (or at a minimum prop up and are perceived to control) execute the bastard seems small beer compared to the likely resultant counter-carnage which will be heaped against our military personnel and allies for our/their doing so.
As to the bona fides on our military action in Iraq at all, well… the debate on that has been going on for years, and I suspect will continue to go on for years. Certainly, given the Congressional vote to authorize force (note aye votes by Sens. Kerry, Clinton, Edwards, Bayh, Biden and everyone else likely running for Pres. nomination) and the UN resolution (the unanimous one, not the withdrawn one!), probably made our invasion more “legal” than many if not most American military actions. No question, Saddam provided numerous casi belli; none of them, of course, were used as selling points for our action, but, I guess, you say tomato…
That said… I repeat my conclusion that the scant psychic satisfaction of executing Saddam just isn’t worth the consequences of doing so; very similar to the conclusion the Israelis reached about Arafat… they certainly had the means (and in their view, the justification) to have him killed, but in the great scheme of things… it was just not worth the attendant trouble.
We will, methinks, eventually reach the same conclusion; I’m just suggesting we reach that conclusion now.

]]> By: Lawrence https://thetalkingdog.com/2005/10/19/go_for_the_gust/#comment-1780 Thu, 20 Oct 2005 18:01:34 +0000 http://thetalkingdog.com/2005/10/19/go_for_the_gust/#comment-1780 “…better yet, just decide to ignore him until he dies or something…”
You’re kidding right? You think the death penalty should be “off the table” in respect to Saddam’s crimes? Man, I hope Congressional Democrats agree with you!
And enough of this “sovereign nation that we invaded without provocation” BS. Saddam fired on our pilots on a daily basis, he continually broke the ’91 ceasefire agreement, he refused to cooperate with inspectors, he ignored 17 UN resolutions, he tried to assassinate a former POTUS… the list goes on and on. How much more provocation does one need?

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