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anything interesting? Fri, 10 Sep 2021 20:58:28 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=7.1.4 By: Granny https://thetalkingdog.com/2007/04/14/td_blog_intervi_53/#comment-12178 Wed, 18 Apr 2007 22:42:58 +0000 http://thetalkingdog.com/2007/04/14/td_blog_intervi_53/#comment-12178 TD …
Another terrific interview!
I remember well the “widely-believed-to-be-sainted Joe Wilson” appearing on news shows at first, then later on talk shows and eventually on special programs on CSpan.
His demeanor seemed to progress through mild shock that he and his wife were being so purposefully maligned (that perhaps is my own naivete remembering the account) to becoming more and more angry and aggressive as the MS media reported statements by those in power to the effect that his wife was a glorified secretary.
Regardless of Joe Wilson’s actions after the fact, I still believe officials in the Bush Administration (top suspect = Karl Rove) are guilty of treason. But that is the least of their crimes.
Thanks for the added perspective.
It could be said I jumped to his and Valerie’s defense so quickly due to dislike of the perpertrators … I’ll accept that. Those guys do tend toward inhumanity at best.
As always, TD saves the Tin-Foil Hat …
Granny

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By: the talking dog https://thetalkingdog.com/2007/04/14/td_blog_intervi_53/#comment-12177 Mon, 16 Apr 2007 21:08:22 +0000 http://thetalkingdog.com/2007/04/14/td_blog_intervi_53/#comment-12177 Hep Cat, Ladies and Gentlemen…he’ll be here all week.

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By: Hep Cat https://thetalkingdog.com/2007/04/14/td_blog_intervi_53/#comment-12176 Mon, 16 Apr 2007 20:26:16 +0000 http://thetalkingdog.com/2007/04/14/td_blog_intervi_53/#comment-12176 Excellent interview, Dog.
Not completely on topic:
French intelligence releases today regarding plots leading to 9/11:
“The warning was another example of how intelligence agents sensed al-Qaida was hard at work in the months leading up to Sept. 11 but were unable to piece together fragmented warnings into a coherent plot.”
“Le Monde first reported the story Monday as it published excerpts of 328 pages of classified documents from France’s main foreign intelligence agency, the DGSE. One note, dated Jan. 5, 2001, reported that al-Qaida was plotting a hijacking.”
January 5, 2001? Wasn’t Hillary still President then? Whoops, Hillary the President. That’s Rich…pardon me.

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By: Mr. G https://thetalkingdog.com/2007/04/14/td_blog_intervi_53/#comment-12175 Mon, 16 Apr 2007 17:19:44 +0000 http://thetalkingdog.com/2007/04/14/td_blog_intervi_53/#comment-12175 TD: Thanks.
I thought that was probably it. I find nothing objectionable there. YMMV, I guess.

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By: the talking dog https://thetalkingdog.com/2007/04/14/td_blog_intervi_53/#comment-12174 Mon, 16 Apr 2007 11:19:22 +0000 http://thetalkingdog.com/2007/04/14/td_blog_intervi_53/#comment-12174 Here is the New York Times op ed from July 2003; the money paragraphs from that op ed are likely these:
Those are the facts surrounding my efforts. The vice president’s office asked a serious question. I was asked to help formulate the answer. I did so, and I have every confidence that the answer I provided was circulated to the appropriate officials within our government.
The question now is how that answer was or was not used by our political leadership. If my information was deemed inaccurate, I understand (though I would be very interested to know why). If, however, the information was ignored because it did not fit certain preconceptions about Iraq, then a legitimate argument can be made that we went to war under false pretenses. (It’s worth remembering that in his March “Meet the Press” appearance, Mr. Cheney said that Saddam Hussein was “trying once again to produce nuclear weapons.”) At a minimum, Congress, which authorized the use of military force at the president’s behest, should want to know if the assertions about Iraq were warranted.
There may be more going on, of course.

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By: the talking dog https://thetalkingdog.com/2007/04/14/td_blog_intervi_53/#comment-12173 Mon, 16 Apr 2007 09:34:41 +0000 http://thetalkingdog.com/2007/04/14/td_blog_intervi_53/#comment-12173 Mr. G– If we could Google all knowledge, we wouldn’t need to buy books! (pp. 146 and 150-1 of The Italian Letter, btw) I think the context comes from Wilson’s op eds in the Times and Post.

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By: Mr. G https://thetalkingdog.com/2007/04/14/td_blog_intervi_53/#comment-12172 Sun, 15 Apr 2007 21:26:39 +0000 http://thetalkingdog.com/2007/04/14/td_blog_intervi_53/#comment-12172 TD: Thanks. Still interested in the context and exact wording here. I’ve seen so many bogus claims about this whole affair that I now prefer to go to primary sources. Where/when did Wilson insist that Cheney “must have read” something? Google fails me.

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By: the talking dog https://thetalkingdog.com/2007/04/14/td_blog_intervi_53/#comment-12171 Sun, 15 Apr 2007 19:05:31 +0000 http://thetalkingdog.com/2007/04/14/td_blog_intervi_53/#comment-12171 Lilybelle– Thanks!
Mr. G– I’m reasonably sure that the report referred to is the report of the debriefing, prepared by two CIA officers who met Wilson immediately upon his return from Africa. Not Mr. Royce’s error, so much as mine in the wording of the question; regardless of who wrote it, it represents the fruits of Mr. Wilson’s fact-finding efforts.

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By: Mr. G https://thetalkingdog.com/2007/04/14/td_blog_intervi_53/#comment-12170 Sun, 15 Apr 2007 18:49:13 +0000 http://thetalkingdog.com/2007/04/14/td_blog_intervi_53/#comment-12170 The one that really was Wilson speaking out of turn was his insistence that Cheney “must have read” his report.
Wilson was debriefed after his trip. He didn’t write a report (or so I recall him saying). I’d be interested to know the context of the above quote. Is a link available?

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By: lilybelle https://thetalkingdog.com/2007/04/14/td_blog_intervi_53/#comment-12169 Sun, 15 Apr 2007 16:11:34 +0000 http://thetalkingdog.com/2007/04/14/td_blog_intervi_53/#comment-12169 This is a great interview. I have followed this story from before the Iraq invasion and this is as clear a picture as I have seen presented. Thanks, Dog

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