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Mon, 19 Dec 2011 06:46:10 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=7.1.4 By: the talking dog https://thetalkingdog.com/2011/12/18/metamorphorsis/#comment-21211 Mon, 19 Dec 2011 06:46:10 +0000 http://thetalkingdog.com/2011/12/18/metamorphorsis/#comment-21211 Kevin:
You nailed it again; the issue is not “fixing” the current system, but replacing it in some manner. It’s going to need replacing no matter what– best have something in place not hastily constructed by the powerful, and solely for their own benefit at that.
As to e-mailing me, you can either use my first name, followed by a dot, followed by my last name @gmail.com, or my first initial, followed by my last name, followed by the letters “esq” [signifying the profession of myself and the alleged profession of my classmate the President] @aol.com. That should be cryptic enough!

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By: Kevin Hayden https://thetalkingdog.com/2011/12/18/metamorphorsis/#comment-21210 Mon, 19 Dec 2011 02:00:03 +0000 http://thetalkingdog.com/2011/12/18/metamorphorsis/#comment-21210 Gee… is that all? 😉
I’m fortunate in that I could cook and garden organically by my mid-twenties, so resuming both in force is easily done, once I finally get resettled and figure out where that will be (my major goal for 2012).
Local community and grassroots efforts I fully agree with. I agree with your assessment of OWS. After seeing the futility of much larger demonstrations against the onset of our War on Iraq that centered on Washington, I began advocating for taking it to Wall Street and the Chicago Board of Trade several years before better heard voices brought it to the current fruition. I expect such actions to be manifested in newly creative ways for years to come.
What I’d like to see from the current order of things is for state parties to break their ties with the national. I believe NY and MN have superficially done so in recent years, but I look for outright divisions, because some states do have some Congressmen and Senators pretty consistently representing the interests of our nation’s citizens.
Statements making the fresh divide clear would also make clear that the goal is not to fix, but to replace the current processes of gaining representation. I recall the Mississippi Freedom Party attempting that in Mississippi back in 1964. We should try to get 50 similar efforts going.
My greatest concern, however, is the capacity of the currently powerful to divert all from such quests by repeating one tragic path that arose from the Great Depression… rebuilding a manufacturing economy while ramping up towards another global (world) war. Anyone up for a Pakistan/China v. US/India match?
If we can ward off such worst-cases, perhaps we can (and I believe we have to) replace dysfunction with function going forward.
As to human contact, hear, hear! Do you still use TTD@TTD.com as your email? It has been too long since I’ve heard your voice via older tech mediums, or broken bread together. Sometime this new year, I hope to break that cone of silence, as the maintenance of good friendships is paramount over all these lesser matters.

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By: the talking dog https://thetalkingdog.com/2011/12/18/metamorphorsis/#comment-21209 Sun, 18 Dec 2011 18:24:01 +0000 http://thetalkingdog.com/2011/12/18/metamorphorsis/#comment-21209 Kevin:
Always a pleasure to hear from you. Happy holidays, man!
Obviously, you jumped right on it and nailed the issue: Citizens United. The legal premises are that money=speech, and sociopathic legal fictions=people. Both of which are utter crap, and happen to be remarkably new doctrines– just over 100 years ago, corporations were rightly kept in very small, limited purpose boxes… when they were let out, we got the crazy monopoly trusts of the late 19th century, and finally, it was REPUBLICANS (Teddy Roosevelt leading) that got us some actual progressive action to limit this back where they belonged. And it held for a while– until, surprise, surprise, it was a DEMOCRAT who let the genie go completely (Bill Clinton knows who he is).
The problem is that money, right now, TOTALLY equals corruption. There are no more red tories. No responsibility of any kind.
And money wants politicians it can control, i.e., that don’t have too much of their own money (why money never liked John McCain, hates Mitt Romney and DESPISES John Huntsman, notwithstanding their nominal “conservative” credentials.)
The political game right now is so totally dominated by finance, because that’s where the money is; there are a few pockets besides Goldman Sachs, JP Morgan, et als… but Gates and Buffett are looking for balm for their eternal souls through their charitable works, hoping it will make up for the abuses they committed to make their money (up to God, but this DOG says “don’t bet on it”), Soros is still trying to be a rock star, and the rest of the money (Mellon Scaifes, Kochs, Waltons, etc.) is pretty much devoted to seeing to it that it never pays taxes again.
Which is why I keep saying: we need to get OUT of the money game. Our lives are happier if they are NOT devoted to money… it gets harder in a country where around 50% are now approaching the poverty line, unemployment is at Great Depression I era levels (though all the government– either party– is now good for is lying about statistics… and everything else)… the fact is, our whole industrial/finance dependent system is fraying, and fraying fast.
I would suggest as a preliminary manner planning on some gardening as soon as the weather allows; get used to the idea of growing something for your own and your friends/family’s consumption– even if symbolic. And start doing your own cooking– don’t support the corporate food behemoths, which will also make you sick, and then dependent on big pharma and their corporate behemoths. Try to maintain your own health– mental and physical. As the MF Global fiasco just showed us– if you have any money or assets, keep them close at hand, preferably outside of the financial system where they can be stolen at a mouseclick by political insiders who need never fear accountability of any kind, let alone JAIL.
We have a long, long way to go. Our political system is beyond broken: it is dead. I do not advocate wasting ANY precious life energy to even pretending it can be fixed. It cannot. BUT… we can create new systems around it… our overlords are so greedy that they constantly forget the lessons that any tinpot dictator has learned– a decent secret police force IS A JOBS PROGRAM… we, of course, do everything– even totalitarianism– on the cheap. And hence, there is space for new orders of things, outside of the conventional industrial/financial economy and system. At a micro level– communities first. TALK TO PEOPLE– one on one… the internet is great, but it’s less revolutionary than all that– we could telephone people 100 years ago (albeit more expensively). But we NEED HUMAN CONTACT– it’s part of what our overlords don’t want us to have.
But the “good news”, if not GREAT NEWS, is that Occupy people have showed us that maybe, just maybe, resistance is NOT futile– the same message that Lech Walesa and Vaclav Havel and Boris Yeltsin managed to grab onto– and liberate hundreds of millions… ironically, people who are now freer than we are. So maybe, just maybe, we can get the spirit of the revolutions not of 220 years ago (the guillotine might be well-deserved by many these days), but of 20 years ago… orderly, replacing a collapsing Imperium with genuine people-powered democracies… ther IS hope… but we CANNOT harbor the fantasy that the current system– either party– or even a third party or independents propposing to operate within it– are remotely viable or sustainable. They are not. A new order will be required, and I predict, will emerge one way or another, as the current system implodes under its very unsustainability. Don’t get me wrong: we’re probably looking at a sh*t storm, as the current powerful with an interest in the status quo refuse to let go. But there is at least the POTENTIAL for something better to emerge.
Hope that’s meaty enough for a brisk December day!!!

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By: Kevin Hayden https://thetalkingdog.com/2011/12/18/metamorphorsis/#comment-21208 Sun, 18 Dec 2011 17:40:36 +0000 http://thetalkingdog.com/2011/12/18/metamorphorsis/#comment-21208 And to that exceptional intermix, where would you propose we go? I’m certain it would have to include a way to undo the Citizens United ruling, perhaps even a Constitutional amendment that denies the century-and-a-half corporate personhood status. Some means of securing accurate vote counts nationwide seems essential too, so we can regain some trust that our ballots actually matter.
But even to get to those points, it seems we need the right (federal and state) legislative personnel in office. Does this mean Dems over the GOP? What of the untrustworthy Blue Dog Dems? Does it mean better third party candidates? And what of the top spots, like the Prez and governors?
I’m not very happy with either major party at this time, and I sure would like to hear more reasoned voices adding their two cents to these urgent questions (and by ‘reasoned’, I do mean I long to hear your bark among them).
The internet and social media and bloggers do offer a means for faster access to a broader choice of alternative ways and means to get our country back on a freedom-honoring track, than we had when the corporate media had a virtual monopoly on the PR megaphone.
Please, kind doggie, would you fetch us a few more meaty bones?

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