February 13, 2004, Fair and balanced... Kerry sliming
Sorry I'm late... Happy Friday the 13th everybody!
First, here is a tale of John Kerry's Vietnam exploits, from his own campaign site, that make you think: here is a stand-up guy our nation can be proud of.
Speaking of a stand-up guy our nation could be proud of, the following is a summary of John Kerry's legislative accomplishments in his 19 years as a United States Senator (most of them in the majority party):
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Wow! What a list! Oh wait-- John Kerry has no significant legislative accomplishments: that would involve believing in something long enough to write a bill about it! This reminds me of another wonderful story of John Kerry told by a Boston talk-radio (I suppose that means right-wing nut) guy, as documented here. My favorite part is this (alleged) exchange:
"One night, they're all getting down, and among the guests is a four-sheets-to-the-wind Liveshot [Carr's knickname for Kerry]. The girl, who's up on current events, starts tearing into Kerry for his weathervane-like voting record, telling him he needs to make a 'commitment.'
"'Baby,' he finally says, swaying ever so slightly in the breeze, 'I am ready right now to make a commitment. To you.'"
Lemme tell you-- for those of you who think I've gone off the deep end and joined "the dark and sinister other side", I can't tell you how much it pisses me off when I start to find myself agreeing with Rush Limbaugh. (The basic gist of Limbaugh's position, btw, is the Democrats have no idea what they're buying with Kerry; they did no analysis, but are running solely with their gut because a few people in Iowa decided to anoint Kerry as "the most electable"-- the guy "who can beat Bush", when virtually all of America outside of Massachusetts knows nothing (or at least very little) about him. You think, Rush?)
Anyway, I understand that Kerry's response to the Bimbo Eruption (the lady in question seems to be a 25 year old South African national) is a general denial. Some say "where there's smoke there's fire", though I would say, "where there's Drudge, there's often something unsubstantiated!" We'll see where this scandal goes-- it may be enough to keep Howard Dean in the game for 4 or 5 more days, but he has strong negatives in polling in Wisconsin; Kerry should win there handily, barring something even more strange.
And much as I enjoy sliming the Commonwealth's junior senator, when he secures the nomination (to be fair, Edwards won't surrender until after Super Tuesday), he will get my full support; just because I don't like him doesn't mean I want to give George W. Bush one more minute than we have to in which to appoint lunatic fringe judges, despoil the environment, deficit spend and cut more taxes for the rich, and plan a war on some other country presenting no threat to us.
Comments
Indeed. A Democrat would offer a welcome respite from the excesses of the Bush administration, but electing Democrats does not solve the problem which is the political establishment in Washington.
Posted by chsa at February 14, 2004 05:46 AM
You abandoned me
Love don't live here anymore
--Kerry's wife (rose royce)
What you gonna say in private
You still want my love
We're in this together
What you gonna do in public
Say you were never in love
Not that you can remember
--Monica Lewinsky (pet shop boys)
Young girl, get out of my mind
My love for you is way out of line
Better run, girl, you're much too young, girl
Beneath your perfume and makeup
You're just a baby in disguise
And though you know that it's wrong to be alone with me
That "come on" look is in your eyes
So hurry home to your momma
I'm sure she wonders where you are
Get out of here, before I have the time to change my mind
'Cause I'm afraid we'll go too far
Young girl, get out of my mind
My love for you is way out of line
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Botox stiffened 60 year old Kerry to his 20 year old puppy love girlfriend. (gary pucket)
Posted by Ricky Vandal at February 14, 2004 06:26 AM
Dog-
Don't forget, at this point in 2000 no one knew what Bush stood for either. Now granted, Kerry has been in public service a bit longer, but still...
Posted by Stephen Silver at February 14, 2004 11:06 AM
Steve:
Beg to disagree. We knew EXACTLY what Bush stood for: he told us. He was going to destroy the national treasury and give goodies to his friends. HE TOLD US HE WOULD. He also told us he would be merciless in slashing social programs and in incorporating the religious right agenda. He told us that too. Many people (not me) deluded themselves that "he was a conciliator" (when his party was in the minority and he HAD TO BE), the "uniter not a divider". People were executed without qualm or mercy, Texas' education and environmental policies were a fucking disaster. Oh-- did I mention that he is the son of the previous worst President of our lifetimes? (Many who might argue that Nixon qualified should know that the twin regents Cheney and Rumsfeld were both fixtures of the Nixon Administration). So-- anyone who DIDN'T know what Bush "stood for" simply wasn't listening.
Ditto John Kerry. John Kerry's entire life (with the apparent
And he's STILL better than Bush by several light years.
Posted by the talking dog at February 14, 2004 11:30 AM
Damn-- what happened to that comment. I was going to say that John Kerry's entire life has been about advancing the interests of John Kerry. He has always done the expedient thing; even his aberrational heroic military service was against his principles; he was not merely a war opponent AFTER the war (calling his former comrades in arms babykillers), but BEFORE the war-- he just wasn't man enough to take the consequences for his "principles" (such as jail, fleeing to Canada, or perhaps volunteering for a medical unit, as many conscientious objectors ended up doing). INstead, he fought what he believed to be an unjust war. And in government... more of same. Just going with the breeze, picking what he thinks is most expedient. As prez, he will govern by polls and expedience: he will be as effective as Carter (without the moral virtue) and as cold-bloodedly as the triangulating Clinton, complete with his own sexual pecadillos (but without the brilliance and vision). He is, in short, the worst possible candidate the Democrats could put up.
All that said-- he's STILL better than Bush by several light years.
Posted by the talking dog at February 14, 2004 11:34 AM
I don't know, TD, you're getting a little too close to Kaus for my comfort (though you'd have to actually endorse--or claim to endorse--Bush over Kerry to be anywhere near that despicable hack). You really think Edwards hasn't done stuff that was all about himself? You think DEAN hasn't done stuff that was all about himself, including on the campaign trail? I don't think you're holding Kerry to a fair standard.
Posted by Haggai at February 14, 2004 11:48 AM
Haggai:
I'm not sure anyone who has ever held the office hasn't been an incredible self-serving ego-maniac. I think its a necessary feature of most political positions, and certainly, at the supreme level, I think its an absolute MUST.
Hence, as to Dean and Edwards: so stipulated. Its just that they have more than offsetting good qualities to go with their egomania; I have seen no evidence that Kerry is or has anything much beyond the self-serving ego-mania. We could even say "he's a smart guy"... but IS HE? Clinton was a Rhodes Scholar; what do we even know about Kerry?
He reminds me of the Bush family in the following way: he's a silver-spoon kid who seems to want the power just for the sake of having it; unlike them, at least, I give him some credit for not being personally corrupt to the core and I have no doubt he cares about the future of the nation and the planet. But IS saying Kerry is an improvement over the worst President we have probably ever had a good enough recomendation? Certainly, yes, over Bush. And I think its going to become clear that more and more Americans will feel that way (even as all the stops get pulled out, including but not limited to Osama being captured, Reagan dying, and Republican National Convention 9-11-a-thon).
As I said-- I will ease out of this mode once he secures the nomination; but serious questions about the senator must be asked (and have not been as of yet). Now seems a better time than, say, November...
Posted by the talking dog at February 14, 2004 04:09 PM
Kerry did some good things with the BCCI investigation, which wasn't exactly the safest thing to do for his political career. And now we have Dean pulling a stunt where he says, "I have to win Wisconsin, or I'm out! Send me money to win Wisconsin!" and then turns around says, "Even if I don't win Wisconsin, I'm staying in--how can I turn my back on all these people who are donating to my campaign even now?" I fail to see how Dean is so obviously more positive overall than Kerry when you compare their pluses to their egos.
Posted by Haggai at February 14, 2004 09:01 PM
Dean hates John Kerry, and I don't blame him one bit. The fact is, you are criticizing a desperate campaign move by a guy who is out of it. Dean is gone-- the last theoretical player is Edwards, if he gets all of the "not Kerry" vote.
And frankly, Dean's stunts-- which are in public view, are infinitely less despicable than the Rovian tactics Kerry used against him. But I'm not criticizing Kerry for playing to win: its a dirty business requiring a special kind of individual willing to be in it.
AS to BCCI, I would agree with you (and Kerry was central to another prominent investigation, which I can't recall at the moment); those are, however, overwhelmingly publicity and photo opportunities, and are consistent with a Kerry who has spent his public career seeking exactly that. Not that some good didn't come out of those things, of course.
BTW, I don't want Kerry to lose, and I don't even mind that much if he gets the nomination. The Democrats have decided that this year, dumping Bush matters over all else, and have settled on being unprincipled, using unprincipled tactics and nominating this particular unprincipled standardbearer to get it done. Maybe that IS good enough; I still think that Kerry's record and public life raises A LOT of questions that need to be addressed here and now before the mano a mano with Karl and George.
Posted by the talking dog at February 14, 2004 09:14 PM
I guess we're just approaching these things with different outlooks. I don't have a problem with politicians seeking publicity for what they're doing, even if they're pretty transparent in their desire for publicity, as long as I mostly agree with what they're doing, which I pretty much do when it comes to Kerry. He has his flaws, to be sure, but if Dean didn't spend much of last year attacking those, then I'm not sure what it was he was attacking. The idea that Kerry has gotten to the front while still being untested, or some sort of unknown quantity, strikes me as very far off the mark.
Some of his criticisms of Dean have been unprincipled, like (one that I paid attention to, although I'm not sure a lot of other people did) when he harangued Dean as being soft on terrorism for calling Hamas members "soldiers," even though it was entirely obvious from the context (in an interview with Wolf Blitzer) that Dean used that term as part of defending Israel's right to use military force against terrorists. Kerry knowingly mis-represented Dean's position on that one. But that doesn't bother me as much as Dean saying that anyone who wants to roll back most of Bush's tax cuts, as opposed to all of them, is just "Bush-lite." I found that to be as insulting and demagogic as anything anyone else said in the whole campaign, if not more so. That's not much better, in my view, than Bush's implications that anyone who disagrees with/criticizes him is with the terrorists, against freedom, etc.
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