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Usually, when the United States Supreme Court agrees to take a case for review, it does so to reverse it-- otherwise, why bother taking it, given that in the High Court's discretion, it rejects something like 99% of the requests for review that it receives? Hence, I speculate that this is the Court's intent with respect to taking the appeal of the Ninth Circuit's ruling that the portion of the Pledge of Allegiance containing the words "Under God" is unconstitutional when said in a public school classroom. Historians of this blog (aside from needing to get a life) will realize that this blog was once in a "point-counterpoint" format with your talking dog assuming the role of "the Left Leaning Dog", and the blogger now known as The Raving Atheist assuming the role of "the Rabid Dog" (the current Rabid Dog actually being my brother, Fred).

The then Rabid Dog (and now Raving Atheist) dropped out of the point-counterpoint blog at some point, seemingly into blog retirement, but was rallied back into regular blogging by... the wild overreaction to the original decision (involving atheist Michael Newdow and his case against his daughter's school in Sacramento, California for making her be in class during a recitation of the Pledge of Allegiance).

Here's the thing: this is a pure blowhard issue, plain and simple. The "Under God" part was added in the 1950's (I suppose to set us off from the godless commies). Yes, there's the "ceremonial deity" argument-- ostensibly, "under God" is not really establishment of any particular religion, so "what's the big deal?" Or, as I commented at the time-- pointy-head liberals and freethinkers have something like the First vs. Second Amendment trade-off-- "You keep your guns and we'll keep our porn." Right now, I'm not clear of the overriding national need to decide this issue by our High Court that is letting lots of other cases go unreviewed by it. The Ninth Circuit, BTW, is right: legally the recitation of the words "Under God" in publicly funded schools is, on its face, every bit as unconstitutional as was Alabama Chief Justice Moore's insistence on having the Ten Commandments as memorialized in granite publicly displayed in his state's supreme court building. So the question remains, why take this case for appeal?

Since I have no idea what the Court will do with the case-- and only 4 justices are needed to accept review, whereas a majority is 5-- which is often an explanation for many 5-4 decisions-- I can only speculate. The Court will hear arguments later this year or early next year, and issue its decision probably in late spring or early summer-- just in time, I suppose, to try to mobilize those voters who might be offended by "attacks on God" by the good old pointy-head liberal cultural elite (people like Dr. Newdow) for the November, 2004 election. I'd like to think that the High Court is above this sort of crass political calculation, and I'm absolutely wrong here. In fact, I hope that. I suspect, however, that time will prove me correct.

Its o.k. either way: as angry as are the "angry White men" (whoever they are), everyone else (hey wait-- I'm an angry White man... ) will be unbelievably angry, come 11-04. And "Under God", or flag waving, or campaigning on the bodies of 9-11 victims, ain't gonna be enough to overcome that general anger.


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Scalia recused himself from the case(s) involving the pledge. I assume that it was because he made some remarks that could only be considered prejudging the case. Was there any other reason?

Posted by dwight meredith at October 14, 2003 03:47 PM

Wowzers, Dwight. I see that Newdow had made a (somewhat unusual) motion asking Scalia to recuse himself, for his comments, and Scalia actually agreed to grant that motion. I haven't seen a further explanation than that...

His recusal not only doesn't change my cynical view any, but since a 4-4 affirmance would be just the thing to inflame the loyalist masses, if I'm right about the political rationale of accepting certiorari (review) in this case, it makes me feel that this is even more likely what's going on.

Posted by the talking dog at October 14, 2003 05:58 PM

He actually did make some comments (on the case of the two gays that also inflamed the right-wing) which indicated to me, at least, that he would be prejudging this case. I don't think he really had any choice but to recuse himself.
However; if they reverse the 9th circuit court, I will be inflamed. Seems to me that 'under God' is clearly establishment.

Posted by Kathy K at October 15, 2003 06:35 PM

Well Dog, Granny thinks it won't really matter a rat's butt in the long run. If we continue on our present path (Bush wins 2004) with the compassionate conservatives, and are set upon by neo-cons and other demons, we will be changing that line to "under Satan" or "under the Masonic Brother Lucifer"
WOW ... why am I always in a fowl mood lately. I am sure it is MARS fault.

Go Home Mars.....

Am just really suffering from the Flu Shot Flu and my brain is full of yucky gooey slime ... it is the downhill slope from DC

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Posted by J.Taylor at October 16, 2003 12:46 AM

crotchety rant: my daddy and his buddies fought through WWII with the word 'indivisible' dagblamit, and if it was good enough for the "Greatest Generation" its good enough for me. Of course the GG were the same schlubs who let Eisenhower change it.

I've always kept the wording I was taught, being a proud American I ain't under nothing but my flag and the sky, gottit? I haven't been to a big gathering lately to see if I get punched out for using the old wording. Amazing how divisible this is. I'll spare everyone the sarcastic comments about the pathetic neediness of this diety person.

Folks differ on the lord's prayer, put me down for choice of wording in our Pledge.

Posted by Cal at October 16, 2003 07:21 PM

Yeah, mine was a GG as well, went to Guam, brought home the pillow reading MOM with the fringe all around it and I thought he was the bees knees and still do.

I am sure I did not express it well, but I was actually thinking our society has gone stark mad and far too politically correct.

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